Lawsuit;
By alcerva - Posted on August 29th, 2008
Question Obamas eligibility for office.citisenship claim at issue.See www.obamascrimes.com.Berg vs Obama no.08-cv-4083
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This is adding to what I
This is adding to what I posted yesterday.
The problem of the Pixel:when you have a gree patterned document such as this,there should be a lot of green Pixels from the background showing up between letters that appear on the certification.But in this case,instead of green Pixels,there are white and grey Pixels between the letters which result when you replace existing text with other text.
2.There is no second fold lines:The certification picture shows two folds necessary to fit any COLB into an envelope for mailing,but the document itself shows only one fold.This is another indication of document alteration.
3There's blurred border:The border has a lower resolution than the rest of the document,which is an indication that is has been altered.
4.The border is one that is used in 2007 COLBs:As a security measure,Hawaii changes border every year.This is when Obama campaign claims the certificate was obtained, that is fine except for the problem that
5.The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB by a process called EDGING.The Hawaiian seal and signature stamp on the back of the document are revealed to be from the wrong year.
For janie and Sontag,when you create documents like"The certificate of live birth",use only a typewriter that was invented at the time you report the document was manufactured.When posting a "certificate of live birth" make sure you borrow only from documents used in the same year.
ITS THE CONSTITUTION THAT IS
ITS THE CONSTITUTION THAT IS IN PLAY-STUPID
Certification of live birth a clear forgery.The certificate of live birth document posted on Mr. Obamas Website,www.fightthesmears.com,Daily Kos[a pro-obama blog]and factcheck.org
[a pro-obama political research group] were found to be altered and forged.The certificate of live birth had five problems as listed.
1.The problem of the Pixel
2.There is no second fold line
3.There's a blurred border
4.The border is one that is used in 2007 COLB
5.The seal and signature stamp are from a 2008 COLB
Politicians who run for higher office should be vetted to comply with the constitution.
While obviously we aren't
While obviously we aren't talking witches here in this day and age, I find this to be an interesting quote;
"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the meantime we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war and long oppressions of enormous public debt… And if we feel their power just sufficiently to hoop us together, it will be the happiest situation in which we can exist. If the game runs sometimes against us at home we must have patience till luck turns, and then we shall have an opportunity of winning back the principles we have lost, for this is a game where principles are at stake."
–Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Taylor, June 4, 1798 in The Writings of Thomas Jefferson p. 1050.
The bottom line that I read here is that every time one side or the other looses in most any contest, they feel that the world is coming to an end and yet the world simply resists doing so despite accusations to the contrary. Our system is still functional despite the outcome of this race. I say this because the outcome of this race simply proves that it [is] functional, rather ipso facto.
We who voted Republican had our turn, and those we elected made some mistakes that were obviously unforgivable by the majority of the U.S. voting population. We need to elect people that don't do such things, stop talking out of both sides of their mouths among other things and finally, people who aren't out of touch with our everyday version of reality.
Although many of us doubt
Although many of us doubt B.O. will fall by the wayside its still interesting that he has not released his original birth record….well someone came up with a petition, for what its worth:
PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA'S BIRTH CERTIFICATE
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550
I doubt if this petition is
I doubt if this petition is worth the effort of hitting the enter key.
If it makes you feel better...go ahead...it's an inexpensive form of entertainment.
But before anyone wastes his time with this on line "petition" or any other, I suggest that he takes the time to read this:
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/internet.asp
Take heed of the information, especially that in the last paragraph, if you really want to make a difference.
Although there are various
Although there are various styles of Birth Certificates that are embossed etc. – those are a feed off of the original, such as for purposes of a Passport etc. The original birth record requires the name of the attending physician and hospital, foot print etc. or if birthed at home – name of person handling the delivery etc.
Couldn’t find the related US site link to post that also covered each state.
It’s all probably a mute point today. Should B.O. provide birth record prior to the electoral vote – there will be uproar should it be found that he is not a natural born citizen, if the Electoral College cast all votes for him and then it is found that he is not a natural born citizen – there will be uproar. It is also doubtful that the Supreme Court will do anything Dec. 5th. Uproar either way may be a mild word.
Who would you rather have Biden as President, or perhaps Pelosi? It is doubtful that McCain could be put in (if B.O. fell out) since the Dems won handily.
Sanoma, I might be wrong
Sanoma, I might be wrong here [lord knows I've been wrong before] but I think a report of birth has the foot prints and a Birth Certificate in many cases will not, "well at least not anymore". Anyway I think those are two different things. All three of my children had their report of birth's sent in to get their Birth Certificate. Also all three of mine were born in Hospitals for whatever difference in paperwork that may make.
I had an issue with a new employee a while back because we had a hard time ascertaining or rather verifying citizenship because of the type of Birth Certificate she was registered with at the State level. She was born on a ranch no doc or registered midwife. The type of Cert she had was one I'd never seen before. Bottom line was that the State said it was perfectly valid for our purposes. I do however wonder if she could have joined the service or obtained a clearance.
Now [I] didn't, but [the People] did, vote for Barack. If his being President elect is in direct contradiction to the Constitution then he has to go, however much that may irritate "the people". That being said we won't have a constitutional crisis but we will be faced with a crisis. I can see the idiots rioting now. Shudder! And forever more it will not be that he did not meet the constitutional requirements, it will be a conspiracy against his political leanings or his skin color and not about anything else and that's really sad.
As unhappy as I am with Barack, a President Biden with Nancy Pelosi as Vice President might well be the recipe for bringing about the Apocalypse. But hey that's just me since I feel that if you look up the word Maniac in the dictionary it should say "see Nancy Pelosi". Oh and that's not to mention Biden's foot in mouth problems.
Posted: November 13,
Posted: November 13, 2008
10:30 pm Eastern
By Chelsea Schilling
© 2008 WorldNetDaily
"Superior Court Judge John Erlick dismissed the lawsuit, claiming the secretary of state does not have authority to inquire about Obama's birth certificate. He also said Marquis failed to name Obama as a party to the lawsuit."
The secretary of state does not have the authority but an employee of the state in Ohio did have authgority to pull every record on Joe the Plumber? How much cover up by the media and the liberal courts is this guy gonna continue to get? When is it gonna end?
Hussein Obama, the president
Hussein Obama, the president elect, must have a legal birth certificate because he has an American passport. For Hussein to travel to wooo the Europeans socialist, like he did, he must have that passport. To get one, Hussein, the chosen one, must present proof of his American citizenship. Mr. Sontag has his undies in a wad as he is always crying about people posting here anonymously if he doesn't like what they say. If he doesn't like it, change the rules to post on LIVE as he is in a position to do so or shut up and quit crying about it. Instead he should be grateful there are a few people that do post on Live which help pay his salary as they are the ones that read the adds on LIVE. Surely Mr. Sontag isn't trying to discourage the freedom of free speech, on LIVE, by his whinning.
It's not a matter of
It's not a matter of "whinning" (sic), Thug. It's a personal belief that when folks make accusations or even snide remarks in a public forum, they should at least bear the accountability of using their own name to do so, owning their work, so to speak.
At minimum that accountability should start with proper registration - as you have - on this Web site if it's going to be used to make claims, groundless or valid. "Janie," who railed yesterday at all the useless angst about President-elect Obama's citizenship, is also registered properly. Some who flared back are not, and - again, my personal opinion - that is not "freedom of speech," it's an incontrovertible act of cowardice.
But my opinion alone does not prescribe what we allow to show up here, as you mistakenly declared. So, I supposed I'll cease expressing my opinion about the same time as you do, i.e. never, thank you very much.
All of us here at LIVE! use our real names in both registration and online, and I'm more than a little proud of that. No one required it, and we haven't even discussed it. We just do it. And, for the record, we have taken down threads or messages with which I personally agree, but were over the top in their inappropriateness on this public forum.
Bill Sontag
Feature Writer
Southwest Texas LIVE!
Having a passport doesn't
Having a passport doesn't necessarily mean that you have an American Birth Cert. Naturalized Citizens can obtain passports.
Anyway, I'm inclined to think this is all a bunch of malarkey. Until I see proof [not news articles making statements based upon rhetoric and supposition] I will consider these people to be drinking from the same well as those that in past years claimed that Bush didn't serve and other such silliness.
Sanoma posted a link to an article that had a photocopy of a birth Cert, that is more along the lines of what I need to see to make up my mind.
Here's the link; http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html
Shouldn't the proof be
Shouldn't the proof be provided by President Elect Obama by simply providing an original birth certificate? The document that is cited here and that you refer to by way of the Sanoma article is no birth certificate. Look at your own, look at the place of birth, Hospital and the state seal, none of which is on this document that the Obama campaign claims to be his birth certificate....
There are various styles of
There are various styles of Birth Certs throughout the U.S. I can't personally tell you if this is one of the recognized ones from Hawaii or not though. In fact the State of Texas has a number of recognized Birth Certs, two of which do not list the hospital but do list the County, yet all have seals. Does Hawaii have county's?. Also there is a form of Birth Cert here in Texas where there is no Hospital listed. I can't remember the name for it off the top of my head but it's for people that were born at home and other such happenstances and place of birth is simply the County and or City if it was within an incorporated City limit.
Does the State of Hawaii require a seal or the info your looking to see on a Birth Cert? I think that should be the next question we all ask. Because if it's not required by that particular State then this is a moot point since Fed requirements on Birth Certs are quite vague.
Does anyone seriously think
Does anyone seriously think that if there were problems with the President-elect's citizenship that it would not have come up and been solved during the two years the campaign was in progress?
Get over it, already.
Janie, Please consider the
Janie,
Please consider the facts.
By John P. Connolly, The Bulletin
11/09/2008
Accordingly, the U.S. Supreme Court has said that Mr. Obama, the DNC and all co-defendants are to respond to the writ, on or before Dec. 1.
Read the whole article:
http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=20193200&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8
Why in the world is Obama
Why in the world is Obama refusing to simply release his original birth certificate and put all these doubts and concerns to rest? Any one that has a legal birth certificate would have already done so to get this issue behind them. What is he hiding? What is he afraid of? Simply release the birth certificate and get it over with.
worldnetdaily November 21, 2008
"So much for those pledges of "open government." So much for those promises of "change." So much for his upcoming oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America Barack Hussein Obama is still refusing to disclose to the American public something as innocent and as basic as his full, undoctored birth certificate to establish beyond any shadow of a doubt – and that doubt is growing daily – that he is a natural-born American citizen."
Click on any of these links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE
http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/stories/2008/11/17/daily71.html
http://blogs.forbes.com/trailwatch/2008/11/obamas-birth--1.html
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081121/NEWS20/811210355/1001/localnewsfront
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/56965
http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81581
http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/articles/2008/10/28/monroe/opinion/1029cla-garcia0.txt
Amen, Janie. This is
Amen, Janie. This is preposterous, wishful thinking from people who are as anonymous as they are desperate.
Bill Sontag
Feature Writer
Southwest Texas LIVE!
I bet if they indict Obama
I bet if they indict Obama on fraud you would still praise him and attack all citizens that are simply doing what is their right, to question our government.
Look this up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE
The U.S. Supreme Court has
The U.S. Supreme Court has schedule a "conference" Dec.5 on Pres elect Barack Obama over his
citizenship.Why won't Obama make his birth certificate available to the nation?
Don't get your hopes up.
Don't get your hopes up. They will find a way to sweep this one under the carpet as did they with all the major problems with Obama's Real Estate dealings, relationships and associations for 20 years, cocaine use, and many other issues that the Media simply did not want to delve into. Look, this issue of questionable citizenship has been out in the open for several months and was raised even during the primaries. But no one wanted to spoil the Messiah’s coming.
It is sickening to witness the games the Obama campaign played and continues to play with the American electorate. Hell, they practically stole the election with ACORN’s fraudulent activities in many of these close call states. There are investigations going on all over the place that no one hears about in regards to voter fraud.
Why won’t he simply submit his birth certificate If there was no problem with it whatsoever? OK, let’s use logic and common sense. He would not submit it because it simply has problems with it.
Obama is guilty of
Obama is guilty of attempting to make us all look like fools. We all know he is dishonest and part of the mob of Chicago. He should be kicked out of the country as an illegal immigrant.
Are the below articles what
Are the below articles what you are referring to?
http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931
Are you serious?
Are you serious?